Friday, February 12, 2010

Throughout history,has there been any liberal idea that did not grow in popularity as time progressed?

Have there been any times where liberals ended up on the wrong side regarding a political issue ?Throughout history,has there been any liberal idea that did not grow in popularity as time progressed?
One that comes to mind is repatriation of slaves. The liberal response to slavery for years was to free the slaves and then ship them back to Africa, since even liberals at that time took for granted that blacks could never live in the US as citizens. The widespread and naive belief of liberals through much of the mid 20th century that Stalin was a humane leader and the Soviet Union was the way of the future also comes to mind.





I'd also say that at least one current popular liberal position, supporting the abolition of nuclear weapons, is foolish. I think this for two reasons: first, if the traditional powers had no nuclear deterrent at all, the potential reward for illegally building nukes by rogue states would be far too high, and the risks far too low. Second, the real danger isn't in the physical weapons, but in the technical knowledge of how to build them. Even if every weapon on the face of the earth was destroyed, that genie still ain't going back in the bottle.Throughout history,has there been any liberal idea that did not grow in popularity as time progressed?
Many, the original Liberal party in England put 'progress' first and foremost of their creeds, that included at the time children working down mines, industrialisation of the entire country, bowing to your 'elders and your betters and (unbelievable and uncontrolled pollution right up until 1958!) Ah that was the future, an empire where a young white Liberal man of proper birth could exploit 95% of the population and live literally like Kings did previously.


Pretty much all of the original 'liberal' ideals are pretty much the opposite now. In the US Liberal came to mean left wing when the real left wing (Socialists through to Communists) were either criminalised or marginalised severely. Middle of the road is popular there at the moment but ideology and politics are driven by events not 'popularity' in the long term!
Boycotting the 1980 Moscow Olympics over Russia's invasion of Afghanistan comes to mind. Not only did Carter do nothing but take the Olympic chances away from athletes who had trained all their lives, but he absolutely ruined the supposedly non-politial Olympics with politics. Today, WE are the ones invading Afghanistan.





Yeah, I'd say Carter screwed the pooch miserably on that one.
Deficit spending, higher taxes, appeasement of foreign adversaries, trade protectionism, gun control, soft punishment for serious crimes, affirmative action, abortion, welfare entitlements, food stamps.





Need a few more examples, or is that enough?
Jimmy Carter was one.





Tax and spend is seeing a resurgence in unpopularity in recent times also.
How about spending. Programs aren't cheap.
Yeah I probably would say Gay Marriage and Separation of Church from State
Negative,





We are ahead of our time.

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